Tips for Communicator by the Beta Testers Team FROM THE MAILING LIST FOR NETSCAPE FOR OS/2

Problem with Java Applet

On Sun, 02 Aug 1998 20:04:33 +0000, xavier caballe wrote:

>
>I'm unable to access any HTML page with a Java applet... even the
>samples from Java 1.1.6 doesn't work. Everytime I get this error:
>
>08-01-1998 21:37:47 SYS3175 PID 0039 TID 000f Slot 008f
>G:\APPS\INTERNET\COMMUNICATOR\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>c0000005
>1dc7c8c7
>P1=00000002 P2=0000001c P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX
>EAX=04b2ba64 EBX=0000000c ECX=0000003c EDX=00000000
>ESI=135675a0 EDI=0000000c
>DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff
>ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff
>FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030
>GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********
>CS:EIP=005b:1dc7c8c7 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:04f3fbf4 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff
>EBP=04f3fc80 FLG=00012202
>
>JAVAI.DLL 0002:0001c8c7
>
>
>I have the latest Java level (JAVA.EXE full version "JDK 1.1.6 IBM
>build o116-19980728 (JIT: javax)"

I have, basically, the same problem(s).

I have tried several different approaches, with varying results (and I have submitted a problem report to IBM).

Edit the preferences, OS/2 Preferences, IBM Java, and add the path (under Path to JVM) to javai.dll (C:\JAVA11\DLL\JAVAI.DLL). This enables *most* java applets to run correctly.
Edit same and specify the path to java.exe (C:\JAVA11\BIN\JAVA.EXE). This allows other applets to run correctly (but not all, and not the ones enabled by javai.dll).

Change Java Preferences, and leave all fields BLANK. Click on (check) Ignore System Classpath. This has, basically, the same effect as adding the path to javai.dll mentioned above.

NOTE: URLs tested with these changes include the File Archives page
at os2ss.com and the osapplet at
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/9885/osapplet.html as
well as the page http://www.java.sun.com:80

os2ss.com - Works with path to JAVA.EXE specified. If not specified,
COMM/2 closes without error.

osapplet - Works with javai.dll specified, or field left blank and Ignore System Classpath checked. Otherwise, page loads, but applet doesn't run.

java.sun.com:80 - Loads page, but Menu Applet doesn't run if field left blank, and Ignore System Classpath checked. If java.exe specified, system locks hard requiring a C-A-D reboot.

It should be noted that ALL 3 of these pages behave correctly using NS/2 2.02

Dan Casey
President, V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education)
VOICE: http://www.os2voice.org
Personal: http://www.ameritech.net/users/dcasey/index.html
dcasey@ameritech.net

Window List

On Mon, 03 Aug 98 16:03:05 -0400, mchasson@ibm.net wrote:

The only application i know of that brings up the window list as you describe is warp enhancer although there may be others. if warp enhancer, it's a "work in progress" (although the progress seems to have stopped) and causes the type of problem you describe with ns/2 4.04 beta, pmmail 1.96+, and perhaps others. essentially, any wps
enhancer that uses mouse buttons to do other than os/2 default things (e.g. by default, the window list will *not* pop up when mouse buttons re chorded over an application window) will likely crash ns/2. that list includes but is not limited to gibbon double-click, mse, and xit
2.5 or lower (it's been fixed by the author, an update will surface soon).

regards, ..

mark davidson (mad@ziplink.net)

>You are all welcome to try this. Press both mouse buttons on an NS404
>page in order to bring up the window list.
>
>You will get many many window lists. In fact it looks like the winning
>game in MS Solitaire. Of course you also crash unless you can also close
>the thread. I could'nt and it was CAD.
>
>Reported to IBM on Saturday.

Mailbox Crashed

Raul,

As long as you still have NS 2.02 still installed, this can be fixed. Run NS/2 and clean ALL emails out of the INBOX...Then COMM/2 will be able to use the INBOX folder again.

Ben Hannon
HTTP://brh.base.org

Raul E. Barragan wrote:

> After the Mailbox crashed, the Inbox interface cann't be accessed. This is
> the warning displayed by the system:
>
> Can't open Inbox. You may not have permission to write to this file.
> Check the permissions and try again.
>
> Perhaps, a file is corrupted. How return to the use of Mailbox?
>
> _____________________________________________________
> Raul E. Barragan Internet: rbarraga@impsat.net.co
> Fax [57 1] 3380530 Carrera 8 # 37-10 Of. 1304
> Santa Fe de Bogota, D.C. Colombia, S.A.
> _____________________________________________________

Return to Subdirectory - 1

On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:09:49 -0400, Raul E. Barragan wrote:

>How to configure the new v4.04b1 Netscape in order to
>return to the sub/directory previously choosen by
>"Save As.." when has been selected before? Here, it
>returns to the default x:\Netscape_404\Program
>subdirectory.

I think there is no possibility to configure this in NC 4.04b1. Perhaps it's one of those annoyances that result from the trade-off between up-to-date features (pure windows port) and OS/2 integration (WPS support with FULL drag'n'drop like in NS/2 2.02) - i don't know too much about winXX dialog boxes.
My solution: Take X-File (from BMT Micro) - it has a superb DIR-history, you can even configure your favorite DIRs - then they are just two mouseklicks away.

Newsgroups Problem

** Reply to note from "Nick Takayama" <ntt@ii.net> Mon, 03 Aug 1998 02:31:59 +0800

> One interesting thing I noticed was:
> * When downloading the list of newsgroups from my news server, > I was unable to use Navigator to load a web page.
> Has anybody else been able to replicate this? Is it a bug or a feature?

Only time I tried it I had the mailer, newsreader, and browser all going at once. Started a newsgroupfetch, went to the browser to get a big bitmap, then polled mail. All completed.

Will Honea

Return to Subdirectory - 2

>How to configure the new v4.04b1 Netscape in order to
>return to the sub/directory previously choosen by
>"Save As.." when has been selected before? Here, it

Go to the object properties for Netscape Navigator and change the working
directory field. This directory is the default directory that Netscape
uses to save files.

Xavi
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"xavier caballe" <xavi@caballe.com>
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Unified Driver

Thomas,

I haven't had the problems you've spoke of with the beta Communicator/2.I'd download the 1696_221 unified driver (released 7/13/98). It is always a good idea to be in the latest "fix". You may wish to download the latest BIOS rev, 1.8, as well (setup342). Both will aide in
stability--typically.

Matthew

Thomas Billert wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> since I have used Communicator/2, I have had a lot of sudden crashes
> (mostly irreproducable). Looking at my popuplog.os2 I found out that
> most of them were SYS3171's in PMGAX64.DLL. I have a Matrox Mystique
> 220 with driver version 2.24.054, running at 1152x864 at TrueColor. I
> believe a lot of us here use Matrox cards, so am I the only one with
> Communicator-crashes in Matrox-DLL's?
> Would it help to update the driver to the most recent version? I was
> still waiting to do this, because I have no graphic driver problems
> with my system actually.
>
> best regards, Billy.
> --
Thomas Billert
c5thbi@rz.uni-jena.de (preferred)
Thomas.Billert@t-online.de
http://www.uni-jena.de/~c5thbi (under construction)

Working Directory

On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 13:30:09 +0100, xavier caballe wrote:

>Go to the object properties for Netscape Navigator and change the working
>directory field. This directory is the default directory that Netscape
>uses to save files.
>

yes, but if you use more than one subdirectory to save files into, this won't help. I think the original poster was writing about Communicator's loss of a feature NS/2 2.02 still had: when you changed into a certain subdirectory during a Netscape session, the next time you opened the file save box within Netscape you'd get this subdirectory again, not everytime the working directory as in Communicator. I'd really love to see this feature again in a later beta or in the GA. Please Netscape team, have a look at it... :-)

regards, Billy.
--
Thomas Billert
c5thbi@rz.uni-jena.de (preferred)
Thomas.Billert@t-online.de
http://www.uni-jena.de/~c5thbi (under construction)

Matrox Videocard

** Reply to note from "Thomas Billert" <c5thbi@rz.uni-jena.de> Tue, 04 Aug 1998 19:28:33 +0100
>
> Hi all,
>
> since I have used Communicator/2, I have had a lot of sudden crashes (mostly
> irreproducable). Looking at my popuplog.os2 I found out that most of them were
> SYS3171's in PMGAX64.DLL. I have a Matrox Mystique 220 with driver version
> 2.24.054, running at 1152x864 at TrueColor. I believe a lot of us here use
> Matrox cards, so am I the only one with Communicator-crashes in Matrox-DLL's?
> Would it help to update the driver to the most recent version? I was still
> waiting to do this, because I have no graphic driver problems with my system
> actually.
>
> best regards, Billy. -- Thomas Billert c5thbi@rz.uni-jena.de (preferred)
> Thomas.Billert@t-online.de http://www.uni-jena.de/~c5thbi (under construction)
>
>

Billy,

I use a Matrox Millenium II card that uses the same Matrox drivers as the Mystique 220, but the latest driver version is 2.21.063. These drivers are available from Matrox at http://www.matrox.com/mgaweb/drivers/ftp_os2.htm.
Although I have had many crashes of C/2 due to Java problems, I checked my popup.log file and didn't find any related to PMGAX64.DLL. I would definitely suggest that you try the newest drivers and see if they take care of your problems.

BTW, the drivers can be very easily updated by unzipping the driver file and issuing the command INSTALL /U from an OS/2 prompt. This automatically installs the new drivers over top of the old ones, and once you re-boot, the new drivers
will be in effect.

Hope this helps.

Ralph Cohen

Communicator/2 Beta 1 -- Warp 4 + FP7 -- JDK 1.1.6 IBM build o116-19980728 (JIT: javax)
Matrox Millenium AGP @ 1280x1024x64k Driver: 2.21.063

Comm/2 Fonts

Hi again,

comparing font rendering in Netscape 2.02 and in Comm/2, I must say that Comm/2 fonts are looking much worse. I selected Tms Rmn in Netscape 2.02 as the default variable width font, and it's looking quite good. Now I wanted to select this one as well in Comm/2, but it always forgets it: when I choose Tms Rmn from the font list, save this selection and reopen the list, I find Roman, Style Tms Rmn as the selected font. But I can easily select other fonts like Arial or even Warp Sans, they aren't forgotten by Comm/2.

I even find Courier much worse rendered, in Navigator as well as in Collabra and Mail. What's the reason? I always thought all fonts should look the same in all applications, because font rendering is done by the operating system itself?

regards, Billy.
--
Thomas Billert
c5thbi@rz.uni-jena.de (preferred)
Thomas.Billert@t-online.de
http://www.uni-jena.de/~c5thbi (under construction)

More Fonts Comm/2

In a message dated 8/4/98 2:52:56 PM Central Daylight Time, c5thbi@rz.unijena.de writes:

<< comparing font rendering in Netscape 2.02 and in Comm/2, I must say that Comm/2 fonts are looking much worse. I selected Tms Rmn in Netscape 2.02 as the default variable width font, and it's looking quite good. Now I wanted to select this one as well in Comm/2, but it always forgets it: when I choose Tms Rmn from the font list, save this selection and reopen the list, I find Roman, Style Tms Rmn as the selected font. But I can easily select other fonts like Arial or even Warp Sans, they aren't forgotten by Comm/2.

Roman, style Tms Rmn and Tms Rmn are exactly the same font.

The reason you see more "problems" on Communicator is that communicatoractually honorsthe font facename tag in HTML. 2.02 did not. You are seeing the pages as thedesigners wanted them.
Most of them actually hard code the font to Arial. Try changing the fontpreferences to always useyour choice of font.

I even find Courier much worse rendered, in Navigator as well as in Collabra and Mail. What's the reason? I always thought all fonts should look the same in all applications, because font rendering is done by the operating system itself?
>>

For verious and sundry bugs, we had to switch Communicator to use the Adobeversion of Courier rather than the regular version.
It kept switching to bitmap fonts arbitraily and the bitmap fonts are two tothree points bigger than regular. This caused webpages to render incorrectly. I actually recommend Courier New. It providesbetter rendering. We could not make it the defaultbecause it is not available on Warp.

We plan to provide a way to turn on bitmap fonts if necessary.

Mike Kaply

Fonts Bug

On Tue, 4 Aug 1998 16:18:35 EDT, PSPMikeK@aol.com wrote:

>The reason you see more "problems" on Communicator is that
>communicator actually honors the font facename tag in HTML.
>2.02 did not. You are seeing the pages as the designers wanted
>them. Most of them actually hard code the font to Arial. Try
>changing the font preferences to always use your choice of font.

I'm not sure your interpretation is correct. If I look my own page locally (which has *no* font facename tag set at all; which identifies itself as html 3.02 and has never seen Communicator before) with font et to TmsRmn in Communicator, all I get is something odd which does not appear anything remotely like TmsRmn font from the font palette.

More so, <H> tags are looking as if created with an outdated
dot-matrix printer: letters acquire this typical wide appearance. I have a hard time to assume that this is any actual TmsRmn typeface.

My intended appearance, as was with NS 2.02, also results from any other recent browser regardsless of operating system. This is tested here. It's more likely that Communicator does not display bitmapped fonts at all (such as TmsRmn) and selects whatever is consider as replacement.

You can avoid part of the bugs above by selecting a "real" postscript type font (haven't tested with true type as I'm with Warp Server SMP) and get some free new bugs - abhorrent kerning and extremely *thin* typefaces which have a hard time to be readable against a less-than-100% contrast. Not to mention a considerable speed penalty. All of them being a HUGE step backwards.

Reminder: This is a BUG, not a feature <g> (it would be good if others reported it to IBM as well)

Martin R. Hadam
Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule
D-30623 Hannover
Germany
Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de

PMGAX64.DLL

On Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:21:39 EST, Ralph Cohen wrote:

>popup.log file and didn't find any related to PMGAX64.DLL. I would definitely
>suggest that you try the newest drivers and see if they take care of your
>problems.
>
thanks, I will do so :-)

>BTW, the drivers can be very easily updated by unzipping the driver file and
>issuing the command INSTALL /U from an OS/2 prompt. This automatically installs
>the new drivers over top of the old ones, and once you re-boot, the new drivers
>will be in effect.
>
oh, this sounds quite simple. I only once updated the drivers since I own a Matrox card (2.13 -> 2.14), and maybe then I haven't read the whole readme or this simple way to update the driver wasn't possible yet.

regards, Billy.
--
Thomas Billert
c5thbi@rz.uni-jena.de (preferred)
Thomas.Billert@t-online.de
http://www.uni-jena.de/~c5thbi (under construction)

Install Directory

On Wed, 05 Aug 1998 10:03:48 +0000, Michel Goyette wrote:

>
>Nope. It installed it in the expected directory. When it asked you if you wanted to use or ignore your
>current NS/2 profile, what did you respond? (the good answer is "ignore").

Never seen this screen, on any of the installs and re-installs I've done.Maybe I should look closer! It asked about using it for the default URL, (Yep), about using Explorer quick lists, (Nope).

Rolly
Retired in quiet little Lakefield, Que.
The Box said, "Requires Windows95 or better."
I use better, much better thank you, Warp4 FP7

About Netcaster

Hi everyone.

Perhaps Mike Kaply can answer this:

What about Netcaster?. Any chance of we EVER getting this?. I dont mind having to pay for that (in the form of a 'plus' version), or through a software choice subscription.

The standard edition in win32 includes Netcaster (heck, Netcaster is even included in Win 3.x versions...).

*WHO* decided that Netcaster was not including?.
I bet Lotus had something to do with it.

BTW: good work!, this beta1 is a HUGE improvement over NS/2 2.02.

Cheers,

Fernando
Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Netcaster is Dead

On 6 Aug 98, at 13:41, Fernando Cassia wrote:

> What about Netcaster?. Any chance of we EVER getting this?. I dont mind
> having to pay for that (in the form of a 'plus' version), or through a
> software choice subscription.

Netcaster is dead... it's not in version 4.5.

stevew@hartnell.cc.ca.us

Comm4 Semi Hard Coded?

The read me says not to put NSC4 in the same directory as NS2.02.On my system, as I guess most others, NS202 is in the x:\Netscape directory.So I opted for x:\COMM4 for NSC404. Which it dutifully made, and SEEMEDto install everything to. However when it started up, it couldn't find the \user directory, and
so came up with it's "Wizard".Which installed it to x:\netscape\users\?????, and not to the COMM4.The only way I could keep it all together was to re-install NS202 in a
new directory I called NETSCAP2, and put NSC404 in NETSCAPE.
Anyone else see this.Before I did the above, I even edited the NS40.pkg, to show COMM4 as installing directory, which didn't help.

Rolly
Retired in quiet little Lakefield, Que.
The Box said, "Requires Windows95 or better."
I use better, much better thank you, Warp4 FP7

Comm4 Semi Hard Coded? - 2

On Wed, 05 Aug 1998 07:11:32 +0400, Rolly Green wrote:

>The read me says not to put NSC4 in the same directory as NS2.02.
>On my system, as I guess most others, NS202 is in the x:\Netscape
>directory.
>So I opted for x:\COMM4 for NSC404. Which it dutifully made, and SEEMED>to install everything to.

Ok.

>However when it started up, it couldn't find the \user directory, and
>so came up with it's "Wizard".
>Which installed it to x:\netscape\users\?????, and not to the COMM4.
>The only way I could keep it all together was to re-install NS202 in a
>new directory I called NETSCAP2, and put NSC404 in NETSCAPE.
>Anyone else see this.

Nope. It installed it in the expected directory. When it asked you if you wanted to use or ignore your current NS/2 profile, what did you respond? (the good answer is "ignore").

>Before I did the above, I even edited the NS40.pkg, to show
>COMM4 as installing directory, which didn't help.

You should not have to do this.

Hope this helps,

Michel

Stuck WAV and MID Mail Attached Player

Versions after versions of Netscape for OS/2, when someone sends me WAV or MID files by mail, Netscape Mail cannot Play any of them.

Versions after versions, Netscape Mail for OS/2 just loads WAV and MID from attached mails half way and stuck!

You can verify by sending attached files with your mail and play it back by Netscape Mails from all OS/2 versions from 2.02 to 4.01b:

x:\mmos2\sounds\twip.wav
x:\mmos2\sounds\reverie.mid

Is this a bug or just unsupported feature for all versions of Netscape Mail or OS/2?

Netscape & Save As..

** Reply to note from "Thomas Billert" <c5thbi@rz.uni-jena.de> Tue, 04 Aug 1998 19:22:01 +0100

> I think the original poster was writing about Communicator's loss of a
> feature NS/2 2.02 still had: when you changed into a certain subdirectory
> during a Netscape session, the next time you opened the file save box
> within Netscape you'd get this subdirectory again, not everytime the
> working directory as in Communicator.

I agree completely. Please please please put it back the way NS/2 2.02 did it. I download a lot of stuff, and it is a PITA to reset the DL subdirectory for each file.

Better yet, you might want to make the DL directory "sticky" by saving the path in an INI file somewhere. It would be nice to retain the last DL path across sessions or multiple instances of the browser.

A sticky path would make everybody happy: The people that always use a single default DL directory could set it up once and leave it that way. Guys like me could change it on a per session basis and DL multiple files to an arbitrary subdirectory.

Best regards,

Kevin
http://www.idk-inc.com

Save As...

Guys, relax.

The Save As was just a bug and I already found it and fixed it.

Mike

Stuck WAV and MID Mail Attached Player - 2

Unfortunately, the original design of the multimedia plugins was such that they used their own interface to access files over the net (the multimedia internet manager in the System Setup folder)

Because of this, mailbox: URLs (internal to netscape) are not supported.

To fix this would require a rewrite of the MM Plugins to use the NPN_ APIs in plugins to access stuff, rather than the Multimedia Internet Manager.

We probably won't get to this in this release, but maybe someone out there should step up to the plate and write new multimedia plugins :) :) :) :)

Mike Kaply

Drag'n'Drop???

Hello!
First of all: Thanks to the hole team for giving us Communicator/2. The one - and nearly only - thing I want to know: Can we expect to see the probably most important OS/2 specific feature in GA? I mean drad and drop of images, pages, URLs to arbitrary folders or to the printer - with RIGHT
mouse button please.I'm araid, this particular feature (which was a REAL plus compared with ALL windows versions) can't be brought back because the entire page rendering was 'only' (sorry for that ;-) ported over from windows and the page itself is not 'OS/2 aware'. Iwould be glad if I was wrong ;-)

Bye!

Andreas

Andreas Ludwig
from Lohmen (near Dresden, Saxony, East-Germany)
using PMMail, IsdnPm 2.9 and OS/2 Warp 4

Gif Strangeness

>> On my system, GIF images have little horizontal gaps in
>> them. Its like NSC

> Here is also the same...
> Running an IBM 750P90 (Upgraded to 166) and IBM 14P display
> with 2 Mb and resolution 800x600 with S3

I also have this problem on a ThinkPad 770ED in 1024x768x65536 running on Warp 4 with FixPak 7. According to the Communicator read.me file:

- On OS/2 Warp 4 with FixPack 6 or higher installed, some graphics might have black bands running through them.

I assume this is in reference to the same problem. I have white bands, but I think that the color of the band/stripe is in contrast to the background color of the graphic.

Regards,

Jim Dritsas
IBM Global Services

Where is NS.404?

>Since Monday, 8/3, I have been trying to find the new version.
>I have gone to: http://service5.boulder.ibm.com/pcpd.nsf/ocomm40+home
>registered and tried to DL the file but I always get the message (No >such
files or directory). What am I doing wrong?

This is the correct address. The server may have been down when you tried. I suspect the site is experiencing alot of network activity and therefore you may get timeout errors. Keep trying. If you are behind a firewall make sure to socksify your system, or specify your company's proxy server in your browser's
configuration.

Regards,

Jim Dritsas
IBM Global Services

Video Problem?

>Hi I read in the read me that I should set video resolution
>to 65,536 or higher. My current video card has a max. color
>of 256 any resolution. Very old 486dx2-66 Does this mean that
>I will need a new video card? Or should ns4os2 work at this?

Netscape Communicator should still work in 256 colors. Higher color resolution will improve graphics quality, but your system will redraw screens/images just a tad slower (since more system resources are required to display the extra colors). Nevertheless, I would recommend a video resolution higher than 256
colors if possible. In my experience, I have noticed that when using 256 colors with Netscape and other programs like Lotus Notes (Win95 included) which try to use colors beyond those available in the 256 color palette, some systems will
appear to produce strange graphic anomalies (i.e. corrupted graphics/fonts and background color fluctuating in between switching applications). The way around this is to use a video mode which displays more than 256 colors.

Your current video card can only display 256 colors because you do not have enough video ram. As a future upgrade, you might want to consider buying a better video card.

Regards,

Jim Dritsas
IBM Global Services

Save as... replaces . with _

In a message dated 8/5/98 8:21:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
stevew@hartnell.cc.ca.us writes:

<< One thing that always bugged me about saving files in NS/2: multiple periods in filenames are replaced with underscores. For example:thisfile-2.0.35.tar.gz becomes thisfile-2_0_35_tar.gz

Very annoying! This hasn't been fixed in 4.04 beta. I hope this is not intentional! >>

This is the same as windows. This is done because a lot of file systems don't support the multiple dots in file names. I'll look at how "turnoffable" it is.

Mike Kaply

More Video Problems

Mike,
Thanks for the reply. I thought this was my problem with ns4os2 giving me a sys3175!I d/l ns4os2 twice installed it per the readme (no problems) answered several questions in the wizard clicked on finish. Gray block comes up say roughly loading bookmarks,_____, loading plug-ins. then a sys3175 error block comes up. In the above gray block it is blank except for the
messagearea at the bottom. I have reported this as a bug (haven't recieved an answer) My system 486dx2-66 32 meg memory, 1.2gig HD fast SCSI-2 w/ 96 meg free; 1024x768x256 video card.
This has happened w/ w/o plugin pack. Have also tried reinstall several times. This a warp 4 fix pack 7, Feature install 1.2.2., rsuinst 1.71 java o116-19980728 working fine with no known problems For me ns4os3 will not work!! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bill

PSPMikeK@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/5/98 7:07:43 PM Central Daylight Time, wsmit08@ibm.net
> writes:
>
> << I read in the read me that I should set video resolution to 65,536 or
> higher.
> My current video card has a max. color of 256 any resolution.
> Very old 486dx2-66
> Does this mean that I will need a new video card?
> Or should ns4os2 work at this?
> >>
>
> This was only for the beta. 256 colors will work better in the final product.
>
> We still VERY STRONGLY recommend higher than 256 colors for the browser. The
> web looks much better at high color.
>

Ceased Operations

Yes, Real Player 5.0 works for me--there are two things that are
somewhat bothersome:

1. Some files I get an "error 11" from--but if I click on them
a second time, they work fine.
2. (This is a Communicator problem, not RA): I seem to have overlooked a file extension for RealAudio files, but there seems to be no way to edit the list of extensions for a given file type!

James Jones

Opinions herein are those of the author, and not necessarily those
of any organization.

Michael Fakaro wrote:
>
> Has anyone gotten Real Player 5 to work, here it works great in
> 2.02 but not in 4.04... before I spend a lot of time for nothing I
> would
> like to know if it's even possible.

Comm/2 and Fonts

>comparing font rendering in Netscape 2.02 and in Comm/2, I must say
>that Comm/2 fonts are looking much worse. I selected Tms Rmn in

I recommend you to download the Trebuchet MS font from Microsoft (available for free at
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/downloads/trebuc.exe)

It's one of the most nice-looking fonts for the web. I use it with
Freetype/2 and it looks really nice.

Xavi

Real Player 5 & NS4

In <35CA2203.BFF39149@ibm.net>, on 08/06/98 at 05:37 PM,
James Jones <jejones@ibm.net> said:

>Yes, Real Player 5.0 works for me--there are two things that are somewhat
>bothersome:

>1. Some files I get an "error 11" from--but if I click on them
> a second time, they work fine.
>2. (This is a Communicator problem, not RA): I seem to have
> overlooked a file extension for RealAudio files, but there seems
> to be no way to edit the list of extensions for a given file type!

> James Jones

What did you do? Did you reinstall from the RealPlayer zip file? I have also given up trying to get it to work. Whenever I install it looks ok to begin with, but when I try to get video or audio, I get an error message. Then going back to the applications page, I see that Comm/4 has changed from the Real logo to a browser app, which it aint. Dont know what to do.
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Printing Problem

While I've found the beta very stable, faster than NS2.02, and without the latest NS2.02 release's bad bad habit of randomly forgetting all of the links I've been to, I do have one wierd problem.

When I first installed the beta I could access the print button and the File|Print.. menu options, but the print process itself failed. So I decided to get the latest printer driver for my HP LaserJet IIIP After I installed the driver the print button and the File|Print menu items are both greyed out. The printer is just fine, and every other application I have that prints works, just the beta fails.

Anyone have a clue or suggestion?

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Greetings and Problem

In <199808071213.OAA15114@nanna.mhrz.mh-hannover.de>, on 08/07/98 at 02:13 PM, "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" <Hadam.Martin@mh-hannover.de> said:

>>Yes, I did the same thing twice and twice it croaked. I frankly miss
>>the ability to drag & drop from the browser rather than the Windows
>>inferior system!

> probably reflects IBM (not so) quietly moving away from the WPS / SOM.
>Why would you need drag&drop on a WSOD-like system? <g,d&r>

Yes, I suspect this also plus they want to standardize all versions on some kind of 'platform-neutral' model which happens to converge on windows.

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Real Player 5 & NS4

In <199808062344.XAA53666@out1.ibm.net>, on 08/06/98 at 07:41 PM,mchasson@ibm.net said:

>In <35CA2203.BFF39149@ibm.net>, on 08/06/98 at 05:37 PM,
> James Jones <jejones@ibm.net> said:

>>Yes, Real Player 5.0 works for me--there are two things that are somewhat
>>bothersome:

>>1. Some files I get an "error 11" from--but if I click on them
>> a second time, they work fine.
>>2. (This is a Communicator problem, not RA): I seem to have
>> overlooked a file extension for RealAudio files, but there seems
>> to be no way to edit the list of extensions for a given file type!

>> James Jones

>What did you do? Did you reinstall from the RealPlayer zip file? I have
>also given up trying to get it to work. Whenever I install it looks ok
>to begin with, but when I try to get video or audio, I get an error
>message. Then going back to the applications page, I see that Comm/4 has
>changed from the Real logo to a browser app, which it aint. Dont know
>what to do. --

Works the same way for me as ns202. What I did (twice) was select pick app and then did so. There are two entries in my applications area. one for x-realaudio and one for x-pn-realaudio.

Real Audio (again)

Hello,

First let me add to the list of people saying how pleased I am with 404 and how surprised and glad i am to see the head of the project responding to questions and problems. For all the times that IBM seem so remote and uninterested they are sometimes very good as well.

I posted a question about realaudio the other day and now have a bit of a problem. I have got it to work with 404 to the following extent:

1. it now loads and runs audio and video from the HDD and audio from the realaudio website without bring up any error codes but

whenever I have tried (numerous) other sites (CNN etc) the software starts and then just as it is about to play it comes up with a "non valid" site/server error No. 22.

I have read all the sites that offer advice on this product and OS/2 but none of the offered solutions help me and none of the reasons realaudio offer for a error 22 seem to fit either. Why would their own site work and no one elses does?

Again thank you for a very promising package.

PS does IBM's Bamba work on realaudio files?

Regards
Paul Clarke
Canberra ACT Australia
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pjclarke/

4.04b1 & Spelling

Two of six times, the use of "Spelling" here in the
"Composition" window caused total crash with (C+A+D) as
the unique "solution". %&%$#!
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Greetings and Problem - 2

** Reply to note from ns4os2@makelist.com Fri, 07 Aug 1998 14:13:44 +0100

The omission of OS/2 specific features from Communicator is very
discouraging and, in my opinion, drives another nail in the OS/2 coffin.

The drag & drop features in Navigator V2.02 are the main reasons why I still use it instead of Communicator 99% of the time. When I need any of the Communicator add ons, I run NT. When I want to do my day-to-day operations, I use Navigator for OS/2. In addition to the lack of drag & drop, In addition, I still haven't gotten the same Java applications that work wonderfully well in Navigator 2.02 to work in Communicator.

Why use a windowsesque browser that cannot utuilize most of the add ons available for Windows and has also been deprived of the features that set OS/2 above Windows?

I now wonder why I waited months for an OS/2 emasculated Windows
browser. But then IBM has done everything in it's power to discourage small users like myself from staying with OS/2 since we are not their "target market".

John

> On Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:50:49 +0100, cowen@INSHSE.COM wrote:
>
> >Yes, I did the same thing twice and twice it croaked. I frankly miss
>the ability to drag & drop from the browser rather than the Windows
>inferior system!

>> probably reflects IBM (not so) quietly moving away from the WPS /
>>SOM. Why would you need drag&drop on a WSOD-like system?
>><g,d&r>
>>
>> Along this line, while the new context menus are fine per se, they
>>are cumbersome to use in 99.9% of all events - which is moving
>>back and forth between pages. I'd strongly suggest to allow for
>>toggling between the very simple old menu (which had only two
>>entries) and the now much enlarged and really context-sensitive
>>menu; only to add that the toggle should reside visibly on the status
>>bar at the bottom.
>>
>>Martin R. Hadam
>>Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule
>>D-30623 Hannover
>>Germany
>>Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de

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Download Suggestion...

I know windows can't do this, and apparently that violates Comm/2's design guide, but I though I'd throw it in...

It would be cool if the source URL for a downloaded file was saved to the "history" or "comments" EAs? This way, finding out where it came from is easy. (virus tracking, resuming
downloads, etc)

There shouldn't be too much code involved to do this. When the file is first created call the EA api with the URL?

BTW, Mike and everybody on the team. I appreciate the work you guys are doing, the program should be fast and feature full. I just want you to understand that OS/2 interface IS superior to WinXX in many ways. OS/2 users WILL be extremely disappointed when we have a program that might as well be running under windows (without all the reboots of course ;-)

Keep up the good work...and -TRY- to get some OS/2 features in...Please.

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Bug List

Hello all :)
Here's my bug-listof for new navigator (forgive me if someone has posted this already):
- screen refresh problems (this may be caused by my video which is old cirrus within 256 colors, but I doubt it)
- in help window only "back" "forwards" buttons are displayed
properly (and only when are disabled), when enabled, they are displayed like rest of the buttons in this window - filled with dark-pink colour
- when changing size of help window / maximizing it - contents do not always fit (in fact it rarely fits, it rather stays in it's previous size)
- on 32Mb RAM when exiting help window I've got JavaScript Error: out
of memory" (?!)
- after long browsing (well just 3 hours) swapper overflow and system deadlock :(
- win-style shortcuts (ctr+c instead ctrl+ins etc...)
- win-style drag'n drop (eg in bookmarks window)
that's all for a while
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Communicator Opens on Boot

Not sure if anyone else has reported this, but since I installed 4.04, it always opens when I boot. It is not in my startup folder, and I have SET
RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY

Is this another one of those nifty winDOS features we keep hearing about?
Or perhaps something is just mucked up in my system. Warp 4, FP7, X-it2.51

More Greetings and Problem

On Fri, 07 Aug 1998 14:13:44 +0100, Dr. Martin R. Hadam wrote:

> Along this line, while the new context menus are fine per se, they are
>cumbersome to use in 99.9% of all events - which is moving back and
>forth between pages. I'd strongly suggest to allow for toggling between
>the very simple old menu (which had only two entries) and the now much
>enlarged and really context-sensitive menu; only to add that the toggle
>should reside visibly on the status bar at the bottom.
>
Just use the <-ALT-> and arrow keys to move between pages.

Brian Gonsalves
Toronto, Canada

Plugins not Working!

Since installing comm/4, I can no longer get MID files to play either in comm/4 or NS202. NS202 says to check if the plugin is installed correctly or there is not enough memory. Comm/4 doesn't complain, it just doesn't do anything.
Looking through MINSTALL.log, I see the following...
The response file OS2MPEG.RSP is good and will be used.
Starting to parse the file 'OS2MPEG.RSP'.
Successfully parsed the file 'OS2MPEG.RSP'.
Begin parsing master file - E:\MMOS2\TEMPINST\CONTROL.SCR.
E:\MMOS2\TEMPINST\CONTROL.SCR parsed successfully.
Begin parsing file list - E:\MMOS2\TEMPINST\master.dsk
E:\MMOS2\TEMPINST\master.dsk parsed successfully.
Diag - entered RUNSPLITTER
.
Diag - not in MMTEMP in MMOS2.
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\DLL\cardinfo.dll
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\INSTALL\os2mpeg.scr

The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\os2om1.ini
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\DLL\os2om1.dll
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\DLL\dvmc.dll
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\DLL\dvmcmri.dll
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\HELP\dvmch.hlp
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\DLL\mpg.dll
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\DLL\mpgrdc.dll
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\DLL\mpgaud.dll
Readonly bit found, Reset & Copy new E:\MMOS2\MOVIES\_vidcdi.mpg
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\MOVIES\_vidcdi.mpg
The following file was copied successfully: E:\MMOS2\showom1.exe
Loaded DLL genin and calling entry point InitGenin.
IM_QUERYPATH Failed:

An mciSendCommand failed with wMessage=15, dwParam1=4096.
Returned from DLL genin.
Starting to parse the file 'E:\MMOS2\INSTALL\os2mpeg.scr'.
Successfully parsed the file 'E:\MMOS2\INSTALL\os2mpeg.scr'.
Minstall = 0 =

I'm assuming that the install did not go well,even though it said it was OK.

Also, does anyone have the CORRECT address to report this problem.
Following the directions in the readme takes me to a page
that says...
NOTE: To submit Feedback go to the Netscape Communicator Main page and select "Problem Reporting & Survey".

What is the URL?

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Trapps

First let me say the Beta is not to shabby. My problem is simple ever since I installed Comm/4 Beta I get Trap D when ever I use it for any long period of time . When i do not use it no Traps. Anybody else seen this problem?? I have checked all my hardware and everything is fine.
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Multiple instances

On Fri, 07 Aug 1998 17:35:33 -0400, Brian D. Bond wrote:

>I have just upgraded to Comm/2 for OS/2 and am overall quite happy.
>However, whenever I select a URL from within my mailer (PMMail), a new
>instance of navigator starts up. This did not ever happen with 2.02. Any
>thoughts???

Try making the arguments for the default browser...

-browser %S

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Aim.ini Created

One other thing I forgot to mention... Comm/2 creates an empty AIM.INI in the startup directory. I assume this is related to AOL Instant Messenger from the Windoze version. Since we don't have it (and don't want it), can the code for this be wiped out? Thanks... :)

stevew@hartnell.cc.ca.us

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Suicide in Java applet

On Sun, 09 Aug 1998 00:34:06 -0400, Carlos Andre R. Marcier wrote:

>Hi, Fellows! Try access this page with Communicator:
>http://www.sms.com.br
>Cummunicator saids "...starting java" and suicides. I'm running Java
>1.1.6. What you think about this?

I think there are serious probs with Comm/2 and Java.

I'm begining to think Comm/s was programmed to work with MS's latest Java rip off, instead of pure Java, like NS2.02.

Comm/2 is a decent Beta, even though it acts like an ALpha some of the time. If the programmers don't fix the Java prob, then forget it, the project is a write off. The other issues should be solved in the normal Beta cycle.

I'm also very concerned about the Comm/2 non-WPS integration. Don't just DAX the beast, port it!

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Suicide in Java applet- 2

On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 22:16:39 -0800, Gerry Britton wrote:

| I think there are serious probs with Comm/2 and Java.
Agreed.

| I'm begining to think Comm/s was programmed to work with MS's latest Java rip off,
| instead of pure Java, like NS2.02.
Huh??? Even Communicator on Windows used Netscapes's VM....

| Comm/2 is a decent Beta, even though it acts like an ALpha some of the time. If the
| programmers don't fix the Java prob, then forget it, the project is a write off. The other
| issues should be solved in the normal Beta cycle.
For a BETA it's a helluva lot more stable than the 2.02 betas - remember them??

| I'm also very concerned about the Comm/2 non-WPS integration. Don't just DAX the
| beast, port it!
Personally, I couldn't give a toss about WPS integration in 4.04. Given IBM's decommitment to SOM, I'd much rather the
NS/2 developers focus on Java...

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URL

On Sun, 09 Aug 1998 13:26:51 +0000, xavier caballe wrote:

>>It is a very small thing, but could you make Comm/2 when started, to have focus on
>>URL text field? When I'm strting it I often want to go to page with URL in my mind, and
>>clicking in URL filed is one click too much :)
>
>This is a homogenous behaviour on all Communicator implementations, so
>I'm affraid they won't be able to modify it.
>
That is what I'm afraid of. But let's look on it in a diffrent way - I'm not a programmer, but I
think it would be two lines of code - on startup give focus to an URL field :)

Pull-down menus at the bottom

On Sun, 09 Aug 1998 01:30:35 +0000, xavier caballe wrote:

>When you have a pull-down menu on a web page, and this pull-down menu
>it's at the bottom of the screen, if you expand the pull-down to see
>all the items... it is expanded on the bottom, so you can't see all the
>items. On Windows, if you don't have enough space on the bottom
>direction it is expanded on the upper direction.
>

AFAIK this is a limitation in OS/2's implementation of pull-down menues. They just forgot to take this case into consideration that the menu could go out of the visible screen. I remember a iscussion on the PMMail mailing list about it, when it came to very large address lists (in PMMail you can get your addresses for a new message as a menu via a right mouse button click). The same thing occurs here: when the address list is too large, it goes out of the visible screen. I think the Comm/2 team can't do very much here.

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Communicator HTML engine from 3rd party apps?

>You gotta be kidding!. Is this so?. BTW: There is also a native
>anti-aliasing engine which is the one used by the Adobe Acrobat
>Reader for OS/2.
>

I found the following in the FAQ for freetype/2, the free TrueTyperendering dll (www.freetype.org):

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Q2: When will you add font-smoothing to the DLL? I really want that!

A2: The FreeType library already supports font-smoothing (or anti-aliasing or grayscaling). The problem is that OS/2's font engine, in its current incarnation, doesn't know anything about anti-aliased text and is only able to manage monochrome bitmaps. Font smoothing support would require a major rewrite of PM/GPI/GRE components, which certainly is out of our scope, and isn't planned by IBM (to our knowledge) in foreseeable future.

If you really need font smoothing in your application, you can still use the FreeType library itself. Be warned that it is a rather low-level engine and that you'll need to add a various number of text features on top of this code to get the equivalent of PM's font API.

And if you really want font smoothing in OS/2, ask IBM!

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So it seems we have to wait a long time for better font rendering inOS/2 :-(

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Long Filename Mail Vulnerability?
Is Communicator for OS/2 affected by the 'Long Filename Mail
Vulnerability' problem?
(http://home.netscape.com/products/security/resources/bugs/longfile.html
).

If so, will Netscape/IBM incorporate the patch to protect us from this problem?

Xavi

Comm/2 freezes

On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 10:35:37 +0500, mark davidson wrote:

>the points have been made before but this is what i'm seeing here with
>comm/2 4.04 beta
>
>1. comm/2 freezes during file transfers - both http and ftp.
>
>2. memory leak? - swapfile grows even with 128 mb ram.

I am seeing both. With 72 mb RAM my swap file normally sits at its initial 3mb. It is parked now at 15 mb, even with NS4 shut down.
Downing the wps (killem pmshell) will usually reclaim leaked memory for me; it doesn't touch NS4.

I've had NS4 freeze a couple of times when quickly switching away from one of multiple "Saving location" sessions. I have usually been able (after a _long_ wait) been able to kill NS4 and continue normally.

Steve
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Cache Settings

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:19:54 -0400, Duane A. Chamblee wrote:

>I set my Disk Cache to 0 and Pictures don't seem to display when using the "back" button...
>until I use View->Refresh or click on something.
>
>If I set my Disk cache to something, this problem doesn't occur.

Come on people, there's enough discussion on this thread you would think SOMEBODY would try to reproduce this problem. :)

I've yet to see a confirmation or denial, just conversation about "disk cache, etc" in general. I don't mind OT discussions, but it'd be nice to have at least ONE on topic reply.

I'd rather confirm it before submitting the bug. (that means my instructions to reproduce worked)

Thanks again.

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Rolly Green wrote:
> Ahhh...but if you set the DISK cache to 0 and the MEMORY cache to 5000k
> (or whatever),
> you will get the refresh because it is stored in memory. And much
> faster too. This saves a lot of disk thrashing.
>
> Rolly

Ahhhh....But for those who are "RAM challenged" (not equiped with more than just enough) it is back to disk cache....or as you put it..."disk thrashing".........
Hmmmm....sounds like something I've heard before, "The more things change, the more they stay the same!!"

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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:59:55 -0400, Alfred W. Wolff wrote:

>I would hope so..... The purpose of the cache is to store recently
>accessed data so that it doesn't have to be downloaded every time you go
>back to a site. By setting it to "0" you are preventing it from doing
>it's job.

I didn't disable the Memory cache. Just the disk. Please try this. it only takes a second.Set the DISK cache to 0, and jump to a page (I used "duanec.indelible-blue.com") follow a
link on the page and hit the back arrow. Do the pictures on the original page come back without a refresh.

Pictures WOULD be displayed but only after I "refreshed" or click a link on the page.

It seems to load them, just not display them (from the memory cache).

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Duane A. Chamblee wrote:
>
> I set my Disk Cache to 0 and Pictures don't seem to display when using the "back" button...
> until I use View->Refresh or click on something.
>
> If I set my Disk cache to something, this problem doesn't occur.
>
> Anyone else seeing this behavior?

I would hope so..... The purpose of the cache is to store recently accessed data so that it doesn't have to be downloaded every time you go back to a site. By setting it to "0" you are preventing it from doing it's job.

Windows 95: n.32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor,written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.

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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:59:55 -0400, Alfred W. Wolff wrote:

>
>I would hope so..... The purpose of the cache is to store recently
>accessed data so that it doesn't have to be downloaded every time you go
>back to a site. By setting it to "0" you are preventing it from doing
>it's job.

Ahhh...but if you set the DISK cache to 0 and the MEMORY cache to 5000k (or whatever),you will get the refresh because it is stored in memory. And much faster too. This saves a lot of disk thrashing.

Rolly
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I use better, much better thank you, Warp4 FP7
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On Wed, 12 Aug 98 16:20:42 +0500, Robert Baleno wrote:

>
>I notices that the lines through the images seemed to get better after setting disk cache to 0 and
>increasing the memory cache
>
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:44:49 -0400, Carlos Andre R. Marcier wrote:
>
>>Hi, Folks!
>>I'm running Communicator 4.04 for OS/2 with this prefereces setted:
>>- Memory Cache 128000 (128,000)
>>- Disk Cache 6000 (6,000)
>>Well, the performance was enhanced with this increase, but not I was
>>expecting! On my system, GIF images have not more little horizontal
>>gaps and no more refresh is needed!
>>What is the ideal combination Memory Cache + Disk Cache for this
>>browser? Somebody there can said to me? I thank in advance!
>>PS: I have 512Mb RAM
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** Reply to note from ns4os2@makelist.com Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:20:41 -0400
> I didn't disable the Memory cache. Just the disk. Please try this. it
> only takes a second. Set the DISK cache to 0, and jump to a page (I
> used "duanec.indelible-blue.com") follow a link on the page and hit
> the back arrow. Do the pictures on the original page come back
> without a refresh.
>
> Pictures WOULD be displayed but only after I "refreshed" or click a
> link on the page.
>
> It seems to load them, just not display them (from the memory
> cache).

I set the memory cache to 5120 and the disk cache to 0 for both V2.02 and V4.04 and tried the above. The images reappeared without any intervention in both cases. However, V2.02 is faster refreshing the screen as it is in most operations.

John

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Starting Composer only

On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:56:05 -0400, Eyal Kat wrote:

If you don't find the icon in the Communicator, you can create one for
Netscape.exe with '-edit' parameter....
>
>Carlos Andre R. Marcier wrote:
>
>> Hi, Folks! Somebody there?
>> It's possible start only Communicator's 4.04 Composer (and not start
>> also the browser)? If is possible, how can I do to make this start? I
>> thank in advance any help!
>> Regards!

Eyal Kat <enigma@infomall.co.il>

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Edit->Preferences->Appearance. Choose Composer.

Hope this helps,

Michel Goyette <GoyetteM@OIQPleinSud.Org>

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Look in the Communicator folder; there's an icon labelled "Netscape
Composer." I'd think that's what you're looking for.

James Jones

James Jones <jejones@ibm.net>

Multithread stopped

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:17:32 -0400, Carlos Andre R. Marcier wrote:

>I observed when Communicator 4.04 is loading heavy weight html page the
>multithread of OS/2 stops: only this function runs and others user
>intend is don't performed when the html page is not completelly charged!
>Well, with Netscape Navigator 2.02 don't exist this problem! Well, I set
>the ring priority and.....nothing! The problem persist: Communicator
>4.04 dominates all CPU threads in this moment! What you think about
>this, Folks?

I'll second that, I was just at developer.com and looked an a LONG index file. As the file loaded, there was no problem. but when Comm/2 finished loading it and started "refreshing"
the window (displaying it), multitasking stopped.I can only assume they are pumping up the priority for the refresh and there are some bugs in that code.

Did you report this problem to the team.

/~~~\ http://duanec.indelible-blue.com
()-()-\ ...Internet at Warp 4
< / \ Duane Chamblee
\__/ ~ Indelible Blue & TeamOS/2

Java 1.1.6 needed

Carlos Andre R. Marcier wrote:
>
> >
> Well, not exist other solution?! The problem is I can't delete my Java
> 1.1.6 because I need it in my IDE!
> PS: Navigator 2.02 and HotJava 1.1.4 runs fine with Java 1.1.6. I think
> Communicator's code is buged, not Java 1.1.6 is broken!
> Regards!!!
>

I'm in the same situation. I cannot go back to Java 1.1.4 for the same reason. As a consequence, until this is fixed, I must limit my beta testing Communicator 4.04 to those rare moments when I can afford to lock up my machine.

--
John B. Small
City of Dallas
jsmall@ci.dallas.tx.us

Pull-down menus at the bottom

In a message dated 8/8/98 6:30:49 PM Central Daylight Time, xavi@caballe.com writes:

<< When you have a pull-down menu on a web page, and this pull-down menu
it's at the bottom of the screen, if you expand the pull-down to see
all the items... it is expanded on the bottom, so you can't see all the
items. On Windows, if you don't have enough space on the bottom
direction it is expanded on the upper direction. >>

Hmm, let's see where people go on this:

The popping up is a Windows behavior, not Netscape. We left pulldowns the OS/2
way.

So here is a case where people want the Windows behavior :) :) :)

Seriously, this would really need to be an OS change. We looked at implementing it and it was way too much code.

Mike Kaply
PSPMikeK@aol.com

Many "Trap 000d" crashes

I have had recurring problems with traps using Communicator 4.04 for OS/2. Last week I reported this on the web page but I have not as yet received even an acknowledgement of its receipt. So I am posting it here with the hopes that someone will take notice.

The event which triggers the trap 000d seems to vary. It seems to always happen if I try to print to a Novell print queue. But it has also happened at other times when printing was not involved at all.

This may or mat not be releveant but the trap often seems to cause corruption in the configuration file for WarpCenter.

I am running
IBM Pentium Pro 200 with 48M RAM
Warp 4 with FIxpak 7
Java 1.1.6 19980728 build
Novell OS/2 client v2.12 with OS2PT1 patch (Netware 4.x network)

The trap screen:
Exception in device driver: LPT9
Trap 000d ERRCD 0a3c ERRACC=**** ERRLIM=********
EAX=000024d0 EBX=0000481c ECX=00000008 EDX=00000033
ESI=9bc14846 EDI=00000006 EBP=014f5456 FLG=00012297
CS:EIP=2470:00002d25 CSACC=009b CSLIM=00006e90
SS:ESP=0030:00005450 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00004543
DS=0a7f DSACC=00f3 DSLIM=00004fff CR0=8001001b
ES=24d0 ESACC=1093 ESLIM=00001039 CR2=1ce28000
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********

The system detected an internal processing error at
location ##0168:ff53784 - 000e:c784.
60000, 9084

06860617
Internal revision 9.031, 98/05/04

If more information is needed, I would be glad to provide it.

--
John B. Small
City of Dallas
jsmall@ci.dallas.tx.us

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Re: Many "Trap 000d" crashes

>Exception in device driver: LPT9
>Trap 000d ERRCD 0a3c ERRACC=**** ERRLIM=********
>EAX=000024d0 EBX=0000481c ECX=00000008 EDX=00000033
>ESI=9bc14846 EDI=00000006 EBP=014f5456 FLG=00012297
>CS:EIP=2470:00002d25 CSACC=009b CSLIM=00006e90
>SS:ESP=0030:00005450 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00004543
>DS=0a7f DSACC=00f3 DSLIM=00004fff CR0=8001001b
>ES=24d0 ESACC=1093 ESLIM=00001039 CR2=1ce28000
>GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********

John, this looks like a ring 0 trap. Ring 0 traps are the most severe, usually bringing down the entire machine. Device drivers and DLLs run at either Ring 0, 2 or 3. Check the drivers you are using for the printer on LPT9. Try removing the drivers & printer object and then reinstalling. Make sure you are
connected to LPT9 on the network. Have you updated your system BIOS lately?
In any event, if you have submitted a problem report on this then you have taken the right step. Even though you have not received an acknowledgement from IBM, your problem report has been received and is probably under evaluation.

Regards,

Jim Dritsas
IBM Global Services
jdritsas@ca.ibm.com

Re: Convert PMMail address book to Messengers address book

On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 21:22:19 -0400, William Busch wrote:

>Is there someway to convert the address book from PMMail to be able to
>use it with NSC/2?

Not to my knowledge and I looked recently myself, as I have PMMail too and found no utility for it.
A company performs Address books conversions on the web, but I could not find PMMail in their options, http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm

There is one utility the PMMAIl Address book to HTML converter by: Moses Fridman, that converts the entire Address book to a html page.If you browse this page all addresses are as e-mail links and can trigger formation of a new e-mail to it in NSC/2. Unfortunately, the addresses are not sorted or ordered. The program is pmm2html.cmd and I have a copy, if you are interested.

Sincerely Yours

Roger

Roger Lindmark
roger-li@algonet.se

@Macarlo, Inc.
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